21 March 2009

The Sonnets


As this will be the first time we analyze poetry together, use this forum to share your thoughts about the two sonnets you will be comparing in your daily reflection. What do you believe to have been the purpose of the poets? The meaning of the sonnets? The meaning and effect of individual lines upon the reader?

16 comments:

Katie Yorke said...

These sonnets are really confusing. Is Petrarch talking about someone he was in love with?

melissa colodner said...

Im confused too. Is Petrarch describing someone hes in love with and is Shakespeare describing someone he doesnt truely love?

Katherine McLaughlin said...

I think they are talking about nature and how both of them are in love with it for different reasons. I think Shakespeare is using a woman to embody the essence of nature. I could be making that up though!

maria kohlbrenner said...

I think that both of them are talking about love, but Petrarch is describing someone he loves who is beautiful while Shakespeare is describing someone who isn't as beautiful. Shakespeare is saying that in order to have real love, the person you are in love with does not need to be beautiful. Both Petrarch and Shakespeare use nature to compare their lover to.

maria kohlbrenner said...

do we need to have 3 concrete details from the sonnets for each paragraph or can it just be a statement like...both sonnets have stressed and unstressed syllables?

Nicole Fornabaio said...

ok... what exactly do we have to write about in the daily reflection? Do we have to give a theme for each sonnet? Do we just have to describe the main idea of each? I'm so confused!!!

melissa colodner said...

me too nicole!!

Nicole Fornabaio said...

Miss arney,
I have no idea what I am doing for the Daily reflection so if get help and i do it tomorrow, can i email it to u tomorrow night and still get the extra credit?

Miss Arney said...

Because of the confusion, I am giving you until Wednesday to turn in your daily reflection. I wanted to give you guys a chance to "talk" it out before I got involved in the discussion. Yes, they are both love sonnets. Petrarch wrote it for a woman he saw in church (yes, a little over the top?!?!?). Melissa: your analysis isn't completely wrong: why would you think Shakespeare doesn't really love the woman? That's the point he is trying to make (look at Maria's comment - except, I think you are viewing Shakespeare a little too harshly in his view of his love).
Structure the daily as a comparison / contrast. Find a similar element of literary elements or devices for your topic sentence and go from there. Good luck.

Julie DeSimone said...

what should the title of the daily reflection be?

melissa colodner said...

oh! ok I am understanding it better now...so Petrarch saying hes in love with a beautiful person..and Shakespeare saying hes in love with someone that isnt pretty but he still loves her?

Katherine McLaughlin said...

Melissa, I think so. If it weren't for this blog I think I would have definitely failed this assignment!

Nicole Fornabaio said...

Yea.. I am thinking it is what Melissa said, and Katherine, i agree.

Nicole Fornabaio said...

oh...one more thing... how do we find the style of the sonnets? What is it asking for when it says "style"?

Miss Arney said...

BE WARNED: Shakespeare is NOT insulting his lover; he is being more realistic!!!!

Tom Higgins said...

is petrarhc's sonnet in couplets?